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today on the show ufo researcher

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member of the debrief and host of the

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paradigm shifts youtube channel

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this is somewhere in the skies with ryan

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sprague

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christina thank you so much for joining

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me today on somewhere in the skies

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thank you so much for having me today

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ryan yeah the tables have turned i was

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on your show

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not too long ago and i figured hey this

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is a new voice in the ufo field

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um and someone who has really just dove

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that the challenges of um

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70 years of ufo baggage to get caught up

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on when it comes to this

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topic so um it's a lot i know i've been

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there so

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um well let's start easy with the origin

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story that's the best way to kind of

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always do this

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um a lot of my listeners wanted to know

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how did you first get interested in ufos

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in the paranormal yeah what kind of got

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you into all of this

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so i grew up watching the outer limits

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the twilight zone with my dad who was

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always watching reruns and for people

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that might not know what that show is

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it's from the very early 1960s still

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black and white uh awesome voices by the

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narrator

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just like classics and it touches a ton

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of topics such as ufos the paranormal

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portals bigfoot all of these things

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when this topic was a hundred percent

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taboo

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no one talks about this but this tv show

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was flourishing

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um beautifully touching on these topics

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for such a young mind like me when i was

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six seven watching this and tell us

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about i still watch it i'm still

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i never get tired of it so it was it was

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that that really sparked my interest and

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really big influence to what i'm doing

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and when we used to go camping we would

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he would just tell me these imaginary

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stories about

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other civilizations out there in space

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made it i had so many questions like

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what's out there what's going on

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do they have a government like we do one

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on the on these

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more intelligent civilizations so

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my imagination would just run i would

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muse about this

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for years and years and i'm thinking you

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i want to learn more about this uh later

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as the years were progressing and i kind

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of had like somewhat of a background

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a lot of people start on this kind of

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topic with campfire stories you know

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friends so when i used to go to horse

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you know what i mean it it adds that

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kind of spice to your life and in in

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it doesn't matter the fact is that

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you're seeing their expressions and you

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colleagues when i tell them yeah

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1980 and they're like wait what

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mainstream it's still not mainstream

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the ufo topic and the paranormal but i

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i was kind of weird in high school i

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or just be just people in general like

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my peers i just wanted to really

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start talking about it getting other

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flying crafter oh yeah it really

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analyze this footage without any bias or

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so i never added my voice

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once you did finally get like your your

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everyone was like whoa like not only is

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but um that's so cool i didn't know that

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photo and video analyzation um i was not

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aware of that that's really cool because

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well i think it's this that's not my

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to why i have this twitter handle eyes

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on the sky is for people to

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uh they're gonna think i'm crazy or you

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gen x and um millennials so it was a

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that like you guys are going all in

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the possibilities are endless and it's

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that life exists somewhere else and it's

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those topics

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there are some you know really hit tv

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shows for kids and for

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the more mature audience about aliens

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about portals about

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other dimensions we have stargate we

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have the newest tv show resident alien

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which is

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hilarious on the sci-fi channel have you

294
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seen it

295
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i i've seen the pilot uh it's so good oh

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so good i know they are

297
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funny it's already gotten uh picked up

298
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for a second season so

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good for them i'm excited okay good good

300
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so i was looking forward to it

301
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but you're you're having these tv shows

302
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even um a cartoon from the early 2000s

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called invader zim

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about an alien that comes earth trying

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to explode it you know kill it

306
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and uh never succeeds so and and then

307
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there's another show called

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debris which is a brand new show that

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came out around the same time as

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resident alien

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um that talk that talks about the

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government finding this debris across

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the globe

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and it's creating these weird portals

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that this

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changing the environment um all of these

317
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things

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and so yes our generation my generation

319
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is so

320
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lucky to have this information to get

321
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them

322
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ready for what could be coming in the

323
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future

324
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absolutely yeah i can't wait to see what

325
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comes next especially after

326
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this uap report comes out which we will

327
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get to but um

328
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you know you mentioned you kind of um

329
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you got involved

330
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and it look when i first got involved in

331
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this topic

332
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christina like it was overwhelming i

333
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didn't know what was truth what was

334
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fiction what cases were real

335
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what's been proven hoax but like um and

336
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it's

337
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dizzying and you really can't tell up

338
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from down left from right

339
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and um so i guess my question would be

340
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for you right now

341
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in 2021 after you've kind of now

342
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gone all in on the whole uap thing

343
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what's like your favorite case what's

344
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the one that really

345
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drives you um in the ufo world right now

346
00:12:07,269 --> 00:12:05,839
well first i want to answer the talk

347
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about the point that you mentioned about

348
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there's so much disinformation out there

349
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on the internet so like yes we're very

350
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lucky to have the internet and have all

351
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the information to our fingertips

352
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but at the same time there is so much

353
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that we don't

354
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know where to look and it's really hard

355
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for all newbies because now that it's

356
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hitting the mainstream media people are

357
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like oh my gosh

358
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ufos the 180 day report

359
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gimbal all of these things the tic tac

360
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you know but they're they're when you

361
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start diving into it like getting

362
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serious

363
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it's hard to look for information so i

364
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really and that's why i really started

365
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just analyzing footage without giving my

366
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opinion

367
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and why i feel like i'm so behind doing

368
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all this um

369
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cases on the research just because

370
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there's so much and you

371
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don't 100 know what's real and what's

372
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not

373
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so it's really good to have people that

374
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are in the field

375
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that you trust that can that can kind of

376
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lead you

377
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in in in a direction and having multiple

378
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people

379
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that specialize in a certain topic the

380
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paranormal or the ufo topic

381
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and um just having a little bit of faith

382
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first off right but also to be a

383
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complete

384
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skeptic you don't want to believe

385
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everything that you're told

386
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you don't want to be a woo-woo you want

387
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to be skeptical and try to find the

388
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facts as

389
00:13:36,389 --> 00:13:34,399
best as possible yep i i think the

390
00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:36,399
safest way to be in this field

391
00:13:39,829 --> 00:13:38,000
and i tell people this all the time is

392
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to be an open-minded skeptic

393
00:13:43,269 --> 00:13:41,519
you know not enough open-minded that

394
00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:43,279
your brains fall out the old

395
00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:46,480
cliche of that but enough to be like

396
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look like maybe science just isn't there

397
00:13:54,230 --> 00:13:51,360
yet and there is

398
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um you know multiple explanations for

399
00:13:58,230 --> 00:13:56,240
what we might be looking at so yeah

400
00:14:00,230 --> 00:13:58,240
that's so that's a really good point ace

401
00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:00,240
history is like

402
00:14:04,629 --> 00:14:02,720
one aspect of all of this and there's

403
00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:04,639
some people who have that down

404
00:14:09,350 --> 00:14:07,360
you know to the day the time of every

405
00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:09,360
ufo case that's ever been

406
00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:11,440
put out there but um i respect that

407
00:14:13,990 --> 00:14:13,120
again like you're coming at this from a

408
00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:14,000
different approach

409
00:14:18,069 --> 00:14:17,279
than just a ufo historian you know

410
00:14:20,470 --> 00:14:18,079
you're not like

411
00:14:22,150 --> 00:14:20,480
memorizing every single ufo case out

412
00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:22,160
there that's been because we have

413
00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:23,760
important stuff going on

414
00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:26,800
right now um well you are

415
00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:28,720
a student if you don't mind me sharing

416
00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:30,240
that i think you've

417
00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:33,680
publicized that what like what do you

418
00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:34,560
study

419
00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:38,639
does it in any way correlate to what

420
00:14:44,949 --> 00:14:41,760
you're doing in the ufo world and second

421
00:14:45,509 --> 00:14:44,959
i see i i see you laughing what do your

422
00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:45,519
friends

423
00:14:50,069 --> 00:14:47,440
and your schoolmates think about you

424
00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:50,079
being the ufo person

425
00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,680
so that's a lot of questions in one and

426
00:14:55,350 --> 00:14:53,760
i'm gonna i'm gonna address all of them

427
00:14:57,829 --> 00:14:55,360
so the first one that you asked that i

428
00:15:01,110 --> 00:14:57,839
didn't answer was my favorite cases

429
00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:01,120
the travis walton case awesome and the

430
00:15:06,389 --> 00:15:04,320
uh whitley strieber case is the book

431
00:15:09,990 --> 00:15:06,399
communion

432
00:15:13,189 --> 00:15:10,000
love them yeah because it has

433
00:15:15,829 --> 00:15:13,199
so much to it it did

434
00:15:16,470 --> 00:15:15,839
i i don't even have words i'm just like

435
00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:16,480
yeah

436
00:15:20,230 --> 00:15:18,880
star trek of like oh my gosh all amazing

437
00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:20,240
um so

438
00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:23,680
as for college yes so i'm in college and

439
00:15:27,430 --> 00:15:24,720
i'm studying

440
00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:27,440
business and communication not what

441
00:15:31,829 --> 00:15:28,560
people would think

442
00:15:34,550 --> 00:15:31,839
for um someone in our field

443
00:15:36,550 --> 00:15:34,560
but when you know because you apply for

444
00:15:38,069 --> 00:15:36,560
college in high school

445
00:15:39,350 --> 00:15:38,079
and in a lot of cases you don't know

446
00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:39,360
what you want to be you just want to

447
00:15:44,069 --> 00:15:40,800
graduate and get out

448
00:15:46,310 --> 00:15:44,079
all right so i picked degrees i

449
00:15:48,150 --> 00:15:46,320
i started with communication and i just

450
00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:48,160
picked it because

451
00:15:55,509 --> 00:15:51,839
um i like people a lot and i like

452
00:15:56,069 --> 00:15:55,519
working with them but before i was all

453
00:15:58,949 --> 00:15:56,079
of this

454
00:15:59,430 --> 00:15:58,959
and i was like a normal you know teenage

455
00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:59,440
kid

456
00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:01,120
i used to work at fast food restaurants

457
00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:02,880
and i loved it i used to work at

458
00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:03,600
chipotle

459
00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:06,320
i used to work at panda express not

460
00:16:11,110 --> 00:16:07,440
because

461
00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:11,120
liked that fast-paced

462
00:16:15,590 --> 00:16:13,199
movement i like to be around food and

463
00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:15,600
around people and to give them a need

464
00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:18,639
being like you're hungry i got you

465
00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:20,800
and that passed over to what i'm doing

466
00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:22,800
now it's like oh you have a need for

467
00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:23,600
information

468
00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:26,560
here you go no bias um it has some nice

469
00:16:30,629 --> 00:16:28,160
of its natural flavor

470
00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:30,639
like salt but i'm not going to add any

471
00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:31,600
of my

472
00:16:35,030 --> 00:16:34,240
jalapeno sauce to it you can add that if

473
00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:35,040
you want

474
00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:38,240
so that that's kind of a weird metaphor

475
00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:40,480
but in my mentality it really makes

476
00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:41,680
sense

477
00:16:45,189 --> 00:16:44,480
yeah i totally get that um again like

478
00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:45,199
you're not

479
00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:47,920
putting your personal bias on this thing

480
00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:49,120
and that's the most

481
00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:51,120
objective way you can approach this i

482
00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:53,360
mean i get emails every day

483
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:55,120
from people saying what is this in this

484
00:16:59,749 --> 00:16:56,480
video or like

485
00:17:01,590 --> 00:16:59,759
what can you i like i i had a bout of

486
00:17:02,710 --> 00:17:01,600
like sleep paralysis last night but i

487
00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:02,720
think also

488
00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:04,559
like i might have been abducted so what

489
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:06,000
happened to me and i'm like

490
00:17:12,789 --> 00:17:10,240
i i can't tell you what happened to you

491
00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:12,799
but look this is what i've been told

492
00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:14,720
this is what maybe you should look into

493
00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:16,480
and and go from there i think that's the

494
00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:18,240
responsible thing to do so

495
00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:20,720
yeah that's pretty cool it guiding them

496
00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:21,280
exactly

497
00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:22,640
so what are your uh what are your

498
00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:24,799
schoolmates your friends think about

499
00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:28,000
you having a ufo youtube channel and

500
00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:32,160
um working for the debrief and all that

501
00:17:38,549 --> 00:17:35,760
they don't know really

502
00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:38,559
really really okay okay that's totally

503
00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:39,520
fair

504
00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:42,160
um they don't know when it comes to my

505
00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:43,919
my family they don't know because they

506
00:17:47,110 --> 00:17:46,240
want me to be very focused in my college

507
00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:47,120
studies and not have

508
00:17:51,029 --> 00:17:50,000
any distractions well this is a pretty

509
00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:51,039
big distraction

510
00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:53,120
yeah little did they know little did

511
00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:55,600
they know i used to be a full honors uh

512
00:17:59,190 --> 00:17:57,440
student for the majority of years i was

513
00:18:01,190 --> 00:17:59,200
in university and then now that i'm

514
00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:01,200
getting so serious into this you know

515
00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:03,520
really pumping out my youtube shifting

516
00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:05,600
the paradigm and the other one

517
00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:07,360
mysteries with the history uh it's

518
00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:09,200
become a really big distraction so

519
00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:10,960
i'm no longer an honor student but i'm

520
00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:13,120
still passing so it's okay

521
00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:15,440
that's all that matters well let's let's

522
00:18:19,350 --> 00:18:16,320
go

523
00:18:21,190 --> 00:18:19,360
channel um

524
00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:21,200
you interviewed this is one of the ones

525
00:18:27,029 --> 00:18:22,880
i recently watched uh

526
00:18:30,310 --> 00:18:27,039
dr jacob uh misra on the debrief

527
00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:30,320
actually um who's a senior research

528
00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:32,240
investigator at blue marble space

529
00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:34,400
institute which i've looked a lot into

530
00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:36,799
in the past their work in exoplanets and

531
00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:37,440
stuff

532
00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:39,840
um so i personally i don't know about

533
00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:41,440
the rest of the viewers and listeners

534
00:18:45,669 --> 00:18:44,080
but i'd love to know how that discussion

535
00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:45,679
went what did you find like most

536
00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:48,240
compelling about what he had to say

537
00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:50,160
so the great thing about the whole thing

538
00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:52,160
because as for the debrief i'm kind of

539
00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:53,840
like their ufo girl i usually

540
00:18:57,990 --> 00:18:56,559
interview you know people that are more

541
00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,000
focused in the uap

542
00:19:01,190 --> 00:19:00,240
topic either like james fox who creates

543
00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:01,200
the documentaries

544
00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:02,799
louis lozando who talks about it on the

545
00:19:07,029 --> 00:19:04,559
news every single day being a part of

546
00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:07,039
was once a part of atip um and then

547
00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:07,840
getting this

548
00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:11,840
other stance on it of not talking about

549
00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:15,440
uaps exactly but kind of going around

550
00:19:19,510 --> 00:19:16,400
the topic

551
00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:19,520
still talking about space but talking

552
00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:20,080
about

553
00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:24,320
to happen

554
00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:26,720
in order for life to evolve and if you

555
00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:28,400
have certain star systems

556
00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:32,000
how that affects life on those planets

557
00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:35,120
things of this nature so it was really

558
00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:39,520
interesting to hear him talk about

559
00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:42,080
what his profession is why he does it

560
00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:42,640
and

561
00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:45,600
but without getting into like the

562
00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:47,679
woo-woo stance the crazy stance of like

563
00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:48,400
oh my gosh

564
00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:52,000
aliens no no it's like there is life

565
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:54,640
there is life out there and here is what

566
00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:55,039
we

567
00:20:01,510 --> 00:19:58,160
think is happening to these

568
00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:01,520
species um that are growing

569
00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:04,799
on those planets yeah

570
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,960
again i think it's baby steps like we

571
00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:08,000
have to

572
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:13,120
connected to aliens that's the first

573
00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:15,039
question i always get in interviews is

574
00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:18,080
all right so the navy saw ufo so they

575
00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:20,559
clearly aliens exist right

576
00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:22,799
that no one's saying that like why are

577
00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:23,919
you saying that

578
00:20:27,190 --> 00:20:25,919
yeah that you have to keep them separate

579
00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:27,200
there's absolutely

580
00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:29,679
no definitive evidence that that is the

581
00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:30,880
case so um

582
00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:32,880
again i think that's what's really cool

583
00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:34,320
and it goes back into

584
00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:37,440
ufos it's an unidentified

585
00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:40,799
flying object until it becomes an ifo

586
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:42,640
and this has been talked about

587
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:43,919
throughout

588
00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,720
all of this 180 day report you're

589
00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:48,240
hearing this all the time

590
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:51,280
it's like it's a ufo until it becomes

591
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:53,600
identified until then we don't know what

592
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:54,880
it is but it's not

593
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:58,159
saying that it's aliens at all

594
00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:59,919
but it could be and if it was i'm all

595
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:01,679
for it yeah

596
00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:04,240
i mean aliens are still on the table i

597
00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:05,520
thought it was interesting that the new

598
00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:06,799
york times like

599
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:09,600
you know that leak said uh pentagon

600
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:10,559
looked at it

601
00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:13,200
um probably not aliens but now they

602
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:15,200
retracted the headline and said

603
00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:17,440
could be aliens so i found that pretty

604
00:21:20,549 --> 00:21:18,240
interesting

605
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:20,559
everything's still on the table it seems

606
00:21:24,310 --> 00:21:22,400
like they're digging a hole from their

607
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:24,320
like digging a hole for themselves going

608
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:25,919
back and forth back and forth even with

609
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:27,120
lou elizondo

610
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:28,720
they're saying he did work for atip no

611
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:30,559
he didn't it's like

612
00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:32,320
they're not helping themselves they're

613
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:33,679
not helping themselves and that's

614
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:36,159
something that i really want to touch on

615
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:38,000
a lot of people are putting all of their

616
00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:40,320
pies all of their eggs in one basket

617
00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:43,520
about this 180 day report

618
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,480
and every single person i ask every

619
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:48,559
person that either enters my stream or

620
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:49,679
if i enter theirs

621
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,919
that's always one of the topics and

622
00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:53,280
people are excited about it because

623
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:54,880
they're like oh the government's going

624
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:55,360
to

625
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,559
disclose aliens and

626
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,480
i think they're gonna be really

627
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:02,640
disappointed in what they're going to

628
00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:03,840
read

629
00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:05,120
here's the thing when it comes to

630
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:07,919
disclosure we know what's happening out

631
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:08,240
there

632
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:10,960
we have an idea that we're not alone in

633
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:13,520
these skies there are uaps that are

634
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:14,080
flying

635
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:17,600
over our airspace we know this

636
00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:19,600
so i don't think disclosure is going to

637
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:20,799
come from the government

638
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:23,280
it's going to come from us from the

639
00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:24,080
public

640
00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:26,799
that's why we have somewhere in the

641
00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:27,280
skies

642
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:30,400
we need to have our

643
00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:32,720
eyes on the skies to be our own

644
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:33,679
disclosure

645
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,039
it is through experiences it is through

646
00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:39,039
seeing is believing that kind of

647
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,960
mentality right the seeing is bleeding

648
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:42,000
mentality

649
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:44,080
is when we disclose information for

650
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:45,200
ourselves

651
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:48,400
and that becomes a virus when that

652
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,200
spreads

653
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:51,440
we don't need the government to say oh

654
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:54,559
yeah so uaps they're actually drones and

655
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:56,400
aliens don't exist

656
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:59,520
the public's going to say wrong i

657
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:00,799
encountered something

658
00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:04,640
and i know this to be true

659
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:06,960
yeah i think that's a good point it

660
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:07,679
takes

661
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,919
you know every person who has an

662
00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:11,520
experience to finally

663
00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:13,919
start talking about it so that enough

664
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:15,520
people are sharing it

665
00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:17,679
and it becomes normal and then we don't

666
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:19,280
need like you said the government to

667
00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:20,000
tell us

668
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:22,960
what is or isn't again i don't give a

669
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:24,960
crap what we get in this uap

670
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:27,600
report in terms of what the pentagon

671
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:28,159
thinks

672
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:29,760
because i personally don't think they

673
00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:31,679
know much um

674
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:34,159
i'm looking forward to maybe some of the

675
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:36,000
cases they share with us

676
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:39,600
um maybe if they do very good point

677
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:42,240
um or if they share any videos or

678
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:42,960
photographs

679
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:45,440
which you know we will argue about for

680
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:47,919
the next 10 years like we have for

681
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:50,080
the tic tac and all this stuff but

682
00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:52,080
that's that's a whole other story

683
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,919
um the whole time they were seagulls

684
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:55,360
whole time damn it

685
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:58,159
damn it um well you know besides the

686
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:59,039
debrief

687
00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,799
um what are some of your favorite

688
00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:02,159
interviews you've done over on your

689
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:03,440
personal channel

690
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:05,760
with um the paradigm shifts and

691
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:06,960
everything all of them

692
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:08,880
all of them all of your children are

693
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,000
your favorite

694
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:12,480
all of my children yes but here's the

695
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,200
thing again

696
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:15,840
i'm a complete newbie and the reason to

697
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:16,559
why i have

698
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,000
shifting the paradigm to the reason to

699
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:20,400
why i have these interviews is to get

700
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:23,679
answers from those that are

701
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:26,799
credible in that field because again it

702
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:28,720
is hard to do research and not know

703
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:30,159
what's true and what's not

704
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:32,480
i don't like to be asked questions

705
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:33,919
because they're all opinions because i

706
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,080
don't have a lot of knowledge

707
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:38,400
from my own experience and or from doing

708
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,360
research

709
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:41,760
but i like to ask questions that i'm

710
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:43,440
having that others are having

711
00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:46,799
to help people get inspired about the

712
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:47,440
topic

713
00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:50,000
but to find the answers that they need

714
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:51,679
or that they're looking for

715
00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:54,960
from those that specialize in that field

716
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:57,200
so all of them are my favorite they all

717
00:25:02,549 --> 00:24:59,039
have a different aspect

718
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:02,559
to this whole uap topic and i'm looking

719
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:05,039
forward to what the future holds on

720
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:07,039
other people that might be dropping some

721
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:08,240
really in from like

722
00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:11,279
really cool information that other

723
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:11,919
people

724
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:15,600
including myself might not know about

725
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:17,440
yeah and you have a wide spectrum of

726
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:19,120
people that you've invited on the show

727
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:20,720
so i highly suggest

728
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,480
people go subscribe to the channel so

729
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:24,960
many amazing conversations you got going

730
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:26,840
on there but um

731
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:29,279
well i want to get your thoughts on this

732
00:25:33,909 --> 00:25:30,559
christina um

733
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:33,919
ancient aliens now this is again

734
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:36,000
this is aliens in the mainstream more

735
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:37,120
than anything

736
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:39,600
um else out there everyone in their

737
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:41,679
mother has seen the show at some point

738
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:42,240
so

739
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:45,520
whole ancient alien theory is that

740
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:46,559
something you

741
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:49,840
buy into or have looked into or um

742
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:51,200
you know for me i find it very

743
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:53,440
problematic in some ways but um

744
00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:54,559
yeah what do you think what do you think

745
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:56,720
about ancient aliens no i i

746
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:58,640
why do you think it's problematic i want

747
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:59,840
to hear that

748
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:02,240
absolutely the the thing i find very

749
00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:04,480
problematic is uh this idea that

750
00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:07,679
um you know that certain cultures who

751
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:08,840
have created

752
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:11,200
incredible you know things throughout

753
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:11,600
the

754
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:16,080
alien intervention

755
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:18,799
for that to happen um that cultures were

756
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:19,600
not

757
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:24,720
ingenuity just wasn't there that they

758
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:26,400
were able to do these incredible things

759
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:28,159
like build the pyramids and

760
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:30,880
and whatnot um so i always had an issue

761
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:32,640
with that i don't think they give humans

762
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:33,600
enough credit

763
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:36,159
on that show that of course humans are

764
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:37,039
too dumb

765
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:39,440
we gotta have aliens come help them and

766
00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:40,960
uh intervene in this

767
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:43,279
and um yeah so that's kind of the issue

768
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,960
i've come across with the whole

769
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:46,799
ancient alien theory but i'm also not

770
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:48,559
throwing it out the window and saying

771
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,640
it hasn't happened because again we

772
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:52,799
don't know so yeah those are my personal

773
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:55,120
thoughts

774
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:57,440
so i would have to say that there's

775
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:58,640
there's a few things i want to say but

776
00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:59,760
one of them being

777
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:01,279
is they're one of the very first tv

778
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,799
shows that actually brought it into the

779
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:04,320
mainstream so even though

780
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:06,880
we might not agree on exactly what

781
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:08,000
they're talking about

782
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:11,039
or the history that they may provide the

783
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:11,919
public

784
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:13,679
the fact that they're even talking about

785
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:16,240
it making it a possibility

786
00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:19,279
with earth's history i think is a really

787
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:20,159
big step

788
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:23,679
and and i i think that what we

789
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:26,320
know of earth's history is just a tiny

790
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,360
bit of what

791
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,520
his of like what's really happened in

792
00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:30,880
history and

793
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,919
there are whole epochs of time missing

794
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,440
from our history classes

795
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:38,000
because supposedly there were five mass

796
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:39,279
extinctions

797
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:43,200
we then we humans are newbies

798
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:46,880
and there are species much older than

799
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,000
ours

800
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:51,039
maybe they visited you know why not

801
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:54,320
we don't know so how how

802
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:57,360
they how ancient aliens depicts the

803
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:01,200
carvings the art the stories

804
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:04,480
it's merely a possibility it's merely

805
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:05,360
speculation

806
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:08,640
no one's saying that it's fact but the

807
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:09,600
fact that they're even

808
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:13,200
talking about it again is is big

809
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,159
and it's a good thing i think you bring

810
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:18,159
up two good points the first thing is

811
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:19,840
questioning what we've been taught is

812
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:21,360
always very important

813
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:24,080
for sure and um and asking those

814
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:25,120
questions

815
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:27,520
and second like it has done wonders for

816
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:29,039
bringing the ufo topic

817
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:30,960
into the mainstream you know i may have

818
00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:32,720
issues with ancient aliens and

819
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:33,279
everything

820
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:35,840
but look i've been on the show i've

821
00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:37,760
spoken at their conferences

822
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:39,440
so i'm probably not the one that should

823
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:42,080
be really uh talking too much

824
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:45,039
negative negativity about him but um the

825
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:45,919
reason

826
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:48,880
i did those things christina was because

827
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,279
um

828
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:51,760
it got it out there like the reason they

829
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:53,279
had me at their conference wasn't

830
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,559
because i was an ancient

831
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,559
alien theorist it was because i was an

832
00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:58,320
actual ufo researcher

833
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:01,360
who had decades of um knowledge on the

834
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:02,240
topic

835
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:04,640
so they said look most viewers come

836
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:05,600
watch our show

837
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:08,640
to be entertained and to um think think

838
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:10,320
maybe these things are possible

839
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:11,760
but let's get them caught up on the

840
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:14,080
history of ufos all the cases that are

841
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,720
out there

842
00:29:18,909 --> 00:29:16,320
the way that scientists are looking at

843
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:18,919
it and scholars and academics and

844
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:21,200
psychologists and stuff like that so

845
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:22,640
that was kind of my reasoning for being

846
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:23,200
like

847
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:26,799
okay all right i'll do it i'll do it um

848
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:30,000
and there we go like hopefully i opened

849
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:31,840
a couple minds up to looking at the

850
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:34,720
actual ufo topic out there other than

851
00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:35,039
just

852
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:37,279
ancient aliens so yeah i think you bring

853
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:38,159
up good points

854
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,760
but also along with that when you're

855
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:41,279
comparing it to other

856
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:44,399
ufo tv shows that are just eyewitness

857
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:45,600
accounts that are just

858
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:48,720
merely opinions or what they saw with

859
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:49,840
ancient aliens

860
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:52,559
they are kind of providing you more

861
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:53,120
facts

862
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:55,120
even though it's more of interpretation

863
00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,520
of what the art might convey

864
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,440
it's more factual because there's

865
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:01,039
evidence out there

866
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:03,039
laid out for you for you to look at and

867
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:04,399
make your own conclusion

868
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:06,240
while with eyewitness accounts you're

869
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:07,760
just believing what these people are

870
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:08,240
saying

871
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:10,240
and being like yeah definitely happened

872
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:11,279
or that's

873
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:14,960
absolute bs so when you are comparing it

874
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:15,279
to

875
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:18,960
other ufo tv shows i think they're just

876
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:20,480
naturally more credible

877
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:22,000
because of the evidence that they

878
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:23,760
provide yeah their whole

879
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:25,760
could it be you know that's kind of the

880
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,840
uh the tagline of ancient aliens

881
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:29,600
um they're not saying it is but could it

882
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:31,360
be they do a good job at

883
00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:42,710
what's up guys ryan sprague here and i'm

884
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:44,559
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885
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,159
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886
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887
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892
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894
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895
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:04,320
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896
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897
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898
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899
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900
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:18,559
thank you and keep looking up let's talk

901
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:19,360
about

902
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:20,880
history for a little bit i want to get

903
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:22,399
your thoughts on um

904
00:31:29,509 --> 00:31:25,679
you did a a episode recently about

905
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:29,519
usos a very hot topic in the ufo world

906
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:30,399
right now

907
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:33,840
uh unidentifiable submerged objects if

908
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:35,120
i'm getting that correctly

909
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,919
i should know that as a ufo person um

910
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,279
and you did a whole episode you brought

911
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:40,960
a bunch of different cases throughout

912
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:43,600
um god not even just the last few

913
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:45,360
decades but centuries

914
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,720
about usos so um what was your favorite

915
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:50,960
uso case that you looked into for that

916
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:52,320
episode

917
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:53,919
so two of them were my favorite one of

918
00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:55,039
them is really short the other one's

919
00:32:01,310 --> 00:31:57,039
kind of longer so i'll go help both

920
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:01,320
the first one uh was in 14

921
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:04,399
1492 when columbus sailed the ocean

922
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:07,840
blue sorry you know

923
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:10,960
learned it from school but he wrote in

924
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:11,840
his diary

925
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:15,360
that he encountered these crafts

926
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:18,720
or these candle lights that were jumping

927
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:20,320
in and out of the water

928
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:23,360
and i really like reading these more

929
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:24,320
ancient

930
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:27,519
or older accounts

931
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,960
of um sightings is because

932
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:32,720
hopefully if there's a translation like

933
00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:34,480
if there is a translation hopefully

934
00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:37,919
they do capture some words that aren't

935
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:40,080
changed through translation so for him

936
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:40,960
he didn't say

937
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,960
lights that were jumping up and down he

938
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,120
said like a flickering candle because

939
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:47,039
there was no electricity at this time in

940
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:48,559
1492.

941
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:51,039
no electricity so if that was translated

942
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,760
differently

943
00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:53,440
that would have a different con like

944
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:54,960
connotation to it

945
00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:58,080
and and it might lose its credibility a

946
00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:59,360
little bit more

947
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:01,200
so that one was really interesting i'm

948
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:02,720
like oh my gosh the most

949
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,320
famous man in the united states

950
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:08,720
encountered a uso and that wasn't his

951
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,960
first time there are a few others in his

952
00:33:15,230 --> 00:33:12,080
diary that he

953
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:15,240
talks about seeing these weird

954
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:16,720
unexplainable

955
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:20,240
crafts in the air and in the ocean

956
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,320
so that one was one of my absolute

957
00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:24,000
favorites but the other one

958
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:27,279
that happened in japan in 1803

959
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:30,399
called the utsuru bune and that

960
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:33,679
is translated as hollow ship

961
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,039
some say that this story

962
00:33:40,149 --> 00:33:39,600
is one of the oldest stories of when

963
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:40,159
humans

964
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:43,679
interacted with um an extraterrestrial

965
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:45,679
but of course we don't really know that

966
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:47,600
i could have been maybe in just in japan

967
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:48,880
and maybe not globally

968
00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:50,960
but again we don't know but this one was

969
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:52,720
um

970
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:56,799
in february

971
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:00,159
22nd of 1803 this really

972
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:04,240
strange looking boat um washed ashore in

973
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:07,440
japan in the hitachi province

974
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,520
and it was something that these

975
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:11,599
fishermen at the time had never seen

976
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:12,480
before it was

977
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:14,560
disc shaped vessel you know it had

978
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:15,599
windows

979
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:18,000
it had metal bands below it and it

980
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:20,159
looked kind of like

981
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:23,040
like a like a rice bowl in in a sense

982
00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:24,399
like a rice pit

983
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:25,679
so that's the best way they could

984
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:27,679
describe it is because they have that

985
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:30,000
already in their country a rice pit

986
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:31,440
otherwise how else would you describe it

987
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:33,359
if you don't know what it is

988
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:36,720
so when that when this

989
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:39,760
craft landed on shore

990
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:42,960
um they saw inside of it that

991
00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:46,000
there were these really strange

992
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:48,240
writings etched in the wall like very

993
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:49,520
unusual fabric

994
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,480
never seen before in japan at this time

995
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:54,000
bed sheets carpet

996
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:57,040
but there's also a passenger on this on

997
00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:57,599
this ship

998
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:00,720
a young beautiful woman she had

999
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:04,160
red hair pale pink skin

1000
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,280
red eyebrows and she wore

1001
00:35:14,829 --> 00:35:10,400
a long garment made of a material that

1002
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,839
again wasn't known to these japanese

1003
00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:16,079
fishermen

1004
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,280
what's so fascinating about this story

1005
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:21,599
is this woman we're like oh maybe maybe

1006
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:22,960
she could have been japanese

1007
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:26,880
but red hair was not a thing in japan

1008
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:30,640
having pink colored skin is still not a

1009
00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:31,200
thing

1010
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:33,440
anywhere in the world so when these

1011
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,720
fishermen try to speak to her in

1012
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:36,400
japanese she didn't understand what they

1013
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:37,119
were saying

1014
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:40,400
and they were so frightened of this

1015
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:40,880
woman

1016
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:42,240
because they didn't they didn't want to

1017
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:44,320
have bad luck right they're more

1018
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:45,920
they were more superstitious at this

1019
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:47,760
time and

1020
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:50,880
what later on from the writings in

1021
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:52,160
several books that were only written

1022
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:54,880
about 20 years later after this incident

1023
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,560
um they believed the fishermen believed

1024
00:36:01,750 --> 00:36:00,320
that was later progressed throughout

1025
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:01,760
history this will make sense while i'm

1026
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:02,640
going

1027
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:05,760
but the symbols that were etched in the

1028
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:06,400
wall

1029
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:09,920
in this rice pit craft could also be

1030
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,720
compared

1031
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:13,440
to some of the alien symbols from

1032
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,560
roswell new mexico

1033
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:18,560
how credible is that we don't know we

1034
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:19,920
don't have the craft

1035
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:21,760
but from what was documented in the

1036
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:23,520
three books that were written

1037
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:27,040
about this utsuru bune incident

1038
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:29,760
those researchers that went back to it

1039
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:30,240
from

1040
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:31,680
like present-day researchers that went

1041
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:34,960
back to um this 1803 story

1042
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:37,520
were able to somehow find a correlation

1043
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:39,280
between the roswell incident

1044
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,119
and that one in japan again

1045
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:45,040
we don't really know it's all

1046
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,160
speculation

1047
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:48,480
but i find that really fascinating all

1048
00:36:52,829 --> 00:36:50,400
together that from something

1049
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:52,839
200 and something years ago could

1050
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:54,240
somehow be

1051
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:56,560
stitched stitched into one of the most

1052
00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:57,680
famous

1053
00:37:01,270 --> 00:37:00,880
stories of all time the roswell that is

1054
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:01,280
so

1055
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,160
cool i know and like look even luis

1056
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:06,160
elizondo has recently come forward i

1057
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:08,880
believe it was with um the washington

1058
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:09,680
post

1059
00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:12,720
and said hey tic tac that they saw in

1060
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:16,079
2004 we found documents that people are

1061
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:17,359
seeing these tic tacs

1062
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:20,160
back in like the 40s the 50s so i think

1063
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:21,599
that's really interesting that we're

1064
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,000
finding

1065
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:24,400
patterns with these craft that some of

1066
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:25,440
them were cited

1067
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:28,160
you know 40 50 60 years ago and now

1068
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:29,680
we're still seeing them today

1069
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,520
yeah those those are really interesting

1070
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:32,880
cases again

1071
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:34,800
predating everything we thought we knew

1072
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:36,560
about ufos um

1073
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:39,920
and culture um and language plays a big

1074
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:40,800
role in all this

1075
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:43,359
too like you mentioned like these these

1076
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:45,440
fishermen only had so many words to

1077
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:46,560
describe

1078
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,800
what they were seeing um you know the

1079
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:50,640
description of the rice bowl like that's

1080
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:52,800
how they could compare it to something

1081
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:55,839
they recognized um yeah absolutely and

1082
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:57,280
things that we still do today like why

1083
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:58,560
do we call it a tic tac

1084
00:38:01,750 --> 00:38:00,320
well because it looks like the tic tac

1085
00:38:03,910 --> 00:38:01,760
freshman

1086
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:03,920
that's how our language progresses is

1087
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:05,359
from things that we already

1088
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:07,839
know and we added something that we

1089
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:10,160
don't know but are trying our best to

1090
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:10,800
explain it

1091
00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:13,520
that's why we have metaphors similes

1092
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:14,240
well it's

1093
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:17,760
like this yep

1094
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:20,000
exactly it defies language this

1095
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:21,359
phenomenon truly does

1096
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:24,800
um i know you've looked into hot spots

1097
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:27,680
with really weird things you know like

1098
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:29,119
obviously everyone knows

1099
00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:30,800
skinwalker ranch is probably the biggest

1100
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:32,160
one right now

1101
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:35,200
um bermuda triangle obviously

1102
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:37,760
there's so much lore to that but um i

1103
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:38,720
know you've come across

1104
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:41,040
other areas where like we're not just

1105
00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:43,119
seeing ufos we're seeing cryptids we're

1106
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:43,760
seeing

1107
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:46,400
paranormal activity so yeah what's some

1108
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:48,240
of the research you've done into these

1109
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:48,880
uh

1110
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,800
paranormal hot spots throughout the

1111
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:52,320
world

1112
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:55,599
it's not just

1113
00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:59,280
one or two places but it's more

1114
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:01,200
than what we could ever imagine these

1115
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:03,359
kinds of hot spots these

1116
00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:06,240
certain locations across the globe

1117
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:07,359
harbor

1118
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:11,440
a ton of different weird sightings

1119
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:13,839
that are unexplainable for many and it

1120
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:15,760
it's not just one or two places

1121
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:19,200
but it's dozens of places locations on

1122
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:20,160
earth

1123
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:23,440
one of them being is called i'm i don't

1124
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:24,560
want to say it wrong but i'm going to

1125
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:25,119
say it

1126
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:28,480
it's called the hoya bacchio forest in

1127
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:32,560
romania and how it got that name

1128
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:36,000
is from a shepherd who

1129
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,079
had 200 sheep and he wanted to go

1130
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:40,800
through the forest as a shortcut

1131
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:44,079
and his name was hawaya bachio but

1132
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,760
he never exited the forest

1133
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:49,680
of course how true is that we don't know

1134
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:53,040
it's from so many centuries ago

1135
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:55,520
no one knows but it got their name the

1136
00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:56,640
forest got their name

1137
00:40:01,990 --> 00:40:00,079
from that shepherd

1138
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:02,000
later on in the 1970s is when it's

1139
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:03,440
really began to

1140
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:06,960
gain its popularity globally when

1141
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:10,319
a um a marsh

1142
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:14,160
a military technician with his

1143
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:16,880
girlfriend 1970s captured a photo of a

1144
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,599
ufo

1145
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:19,599
it got published and it went viral i

1146
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:20,960
guess viral for that time right they

1147
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:22,240
didn't have internet so i went viral

1148
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,880
through the newspapers

1149
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:26,720
which takes a little bit more time than

1150
00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:28,000
maybe today

1151
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:29,839
and that's really where it kicked off

1152
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:31,440
when it was seeing these

1153
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:35,200
weird crafts that were flying at intense

1154
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:38,640
speeds doing turns that are unimaginable

1155
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:42,000
at the time for

1156
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:44,960
airplanes that we still can't even do

1157
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,640
today we still cannot replicate

1158
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:48,240
what tic tacs and what these other

1159
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:49,680
crafts do today

1160
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:52,400
so it really shocked this man and it

1161
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:53,200
became more

1162
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:56,400
popular to go visit this forest is

1163
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:56,960
called

1164
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:59,040
one of the most haunted forests in the

1165
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:00,160
world because it's not

1166
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:03,920
just a ufo hot spot but it also

1167
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:07,040
people also see um

1168
00:41:13,589 --> 00:41:10,319
they also see disembodied people

1169
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:13,599
like just certain limbs floating um

1170
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:16,720
screams that don't really have an origin

1171
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:20,640
shadow people and all of these things

1172
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,160
that would be classified as the

1173
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:24,000
paranormal that many people

1174
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:26,720
do not believe even to this day but the

1175
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:27,440
locals

1176
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:30,000
there in romania don't enter the forest

1177
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:30,960
they say

1178
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,839
do not go in the forest um you will not

1179
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:35,599
return

1180
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:39,119
and i'm way too scared to enter

1181
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:41,920
of course people might think it's only a

1182
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,000
wives tale to scare their children to be

1183
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:46,800
to behave well and to not run away but a

1184
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:48,480
lot of the locals truly are

1185
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:51,760
scared of the forest those that

1186
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:54,960
have the guts to enter they

1187
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:57,599
complain of physical harm including

1188
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:58,480
rashes

1189
00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:00,880
nausea vomiting migraines burns

1190
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:02,000
scratches anxiety

1191
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:06,000
and other unusual sensations one

1192
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:08,880
case that was i don't want to say it was

1193
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:10,560
fact checked but that was caught on

1194
00:42:14,829 --> 00:42:11,359
camera

1195
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:14,839
was when a tv show called the

1196
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:18,079
um destination truth

1197
00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:19,760
entered that forest to document it so

1198
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:21,359
there's one crew member

1199
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:23,440
by the name of evan you know he was sat

1200
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:24,960
he was sat in a clearing

1201
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:26,560
he's probably exhausted carrying all the

1202
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:27,920
camera equipment because we know how

1203
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:28,720
heavy that stuff

1204
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:32,160
is very heavy and uh he sat in a

1205
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:33,440
clearing

1206
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:37,280
taking a break and he hears this

1207
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:40,160
like woman voices right behind him and a

1208
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:42,079
flash of light just like

1209
00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:45,440
enter through him he was so terrified

1210
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:48,800
he ran to the other side of the clearing

1211
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,720
just like just mortified of the

1212
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:52,480
situation because when he looked behind

1213
00:43:02,790 --> 00:42:52,800
him

1214
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:02,800
calmed down he noticed that he had like

1215
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:05,440
this burning sensation on his arm and

1216
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:08,800
so he lifts his long sleeve t-shirts

1217
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:12,079
and he sees scars on his arm and you

1218
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:12,800
might think

1219
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:14,800
oh well because he ran he might have ran

1220
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:16,560
through some tree branches and they

1221
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:19,200
scratched him all this kind of debunking

1222
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:19,839
stuff

1223
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:22,560
possibly but there were no scratches on

1224
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,079
his long sleeve t-shirt

1225
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:26,800
there was no dirt there was no holes it

1226
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:28,880
was only after he lifted

1227
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,520
his shirt that he that he saw like claw

1228
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:34,000
marks on his arm

1229
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:35,760
so that's a i mean that was really big

1230
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:37,599
it happened you know i think just what a

1231
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:38,880
decade ago maybe 10

1232
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:41,920
years or less and it was caught on

1233
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:42,480
camera

1234
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:45,520
so it's pretty horrifying uh for for

1235
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:46,640
those that live there

1236
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,880
but people that like that kind of

1237
00:43:52,829 --> 00:43:51,119
wanting to be daredevil right will enter

1238
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:52,839
the forest and wanting to

1239
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,480
see this weird stuff there's also

1240
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:58,000
missing time

1241
00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:59,680
people believe that it's a portal to

1242
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:01,680
another dimension again they see

1243
00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:04,079
shadow people there was this i'm going

1244
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:05,359
to hit one more story it'd be really

1245
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:06,160
fast

1246
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:08,640
about this uh little girl she was five

1247
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:09,760
years old no sorry

1248
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,640
she was a little girl and she got lost

1249
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:14,960
in the forest for five years

1250
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:18,480
she just disappeared obviously like

1251
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,760
everyone's so scared they're trying to

1252
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,200
look for her they spent days and days

1253
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,760
and days trying to find this little girl

1254
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:26,400
five years later she comes back not

1255
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:26,960
dirty

1256
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:29,040
didn't age wearing the exact same

1257
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:31,520
clothes she wore when she disappeared

1258
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:34,640
clean as and she had no memory

1259
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,680
she had no memory of her even leaving

1260
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,839
so it was kind of like she entered a a

1261
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,440
time portal

1262
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,839
yeah again we don't know she was five

1263
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:45,119
years old she could have been making it

1264
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,760
up but

1265
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,520
the rest of the town that lives right

1266
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:49,520
next to this forest

1267
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:51,280
are eyewitness accounts because they

1268
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,960
said nope this girl was really gone for

1269
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:54,560
five years and she came back as if

1270
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:56,000
nothing ever happened she didn't even

1271
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:57,359
age

1272
00:45:01,270 --> 00:45:00,480
wow that that that one gave me chills

1273
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:01,280
not the

1274
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:05,760
forest but oh my god

1275
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,960
like can you imagine like being lost for

1276
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:09,839
five years

1277
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:11,359
when like for you it might have been

1278
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:13,040
like just a couple seconds

1279
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:15,599
but for like us in this dimension in

1280
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:16,720
this time in space

1281
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:18,640
five years goes by and a lot of people

1282
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:20,079
think that's how these things

1283
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:23,200
travel you know it's like yeah it would

1284
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:24,000
take

1285
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:25,760
whatever 100 light years for something

1286
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:27,040
to get here but

1287
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:29,280
maybe it's just the you know blink of an

1288
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:30,319
eye for some

1289
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:32,319
advanced civilization or

1290
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:34,400
interdimensional being

1291
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:36,800
exactly and that's why it's so healthy

1292
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:38,560
to have the mind

1293
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:43,119
run in a curious with curiosity because

1294
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,960
we can answer these questions at some

1295
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:46,480
point in time this is why

1296
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:49,359
we pay scientists to try to find out

1297
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:50,800
anti-gravity

1298
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:53,200
crafts it's through that curiosity to

1299
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:55,119
trying to find the answers to trying to

1300
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:55,520
be

1301
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,680
to go out into space

1302
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:01,760
it's because of curiosity it's because

1303
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:03,520
of wanting to know these answers that

1304
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:04,560
are already happening

1305
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:07,920
on earth every single day every day

1306
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:09,760
i love that well i know you've looked

1307
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,040
into um

1308
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:13,599
you know superstition mountain bradshaw

1309
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,240
ranch

1310
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:16,800
the suicide forest in japan so i will

1311
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:19,040
leave that to the viewers to check out

1312
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:20,480
your videos and everything that you've

1313
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:22,400
done on those christina but um

1314
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,560
before we get to the listener questions

1315
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:26,640
um there's this event coming up that you

1316
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:28,480
had mentioned briefly to me

1317
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,240
on july 17th um and this has to do with

1318
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:34,319
eyes on the sky so can you tell us a

1319
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:35,440
little about that

1320
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:37,359
before we get to our burning listener

1321
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:38,480
questions

1322
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:42,880
oh my gosh absolutely so

1323
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:45,760
this event is happening pretty soon this

1324
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:46,880
summer

1325
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:50,319
and and it's called eyes on the skies

1326
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:53,760
by this reddit group that

1327
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:56,640
got exposed to the topic from the

1328
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:57,839
mainstream media

1329
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:01,200
touching on ufos almost every single day

1330
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:03,440
but they were thinking you know we want

1331
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,240
to make it an

1332
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:06,480
international event for people to look

1333
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:07,520
up in the skies

1334
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,079
and find answers for themselves because

1335
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,400
they didn't feel like

1336
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:14,480
the media was giving it enough exposure

1337
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,520
of just of

1338
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,520
just looking out in the skies and seeing

1339
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:19,119
stuff out there instead we're seeing a

1340
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:20,319
lot of

1341
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:23,119
credible people in the military in the

1342
00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:23,599
navy

1343
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:26,640
talking about the nimitz the gimbal the

1344
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:27,200
tic tac

1345
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:28,960
and like yes those are fascinating

1346
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,359
they're opening people's minds

1347
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:33,040
but for those that maybe are not a part

1348
00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:34,880
of the military um don't have that

1349
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:35,599
mentality

1350
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:37,040
they don't really understand what's

1351
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:39,040
going on it's a bit too technical for

1352
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:39,760
them

1353
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,960
so these reddit people that later con

1354
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:44,720
that later contacted me through someone

1355
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:46,720
else saying hey we're having this event

1356
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:48,240
july 17th

1357
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:51,119
and we really want to expose it to the

1358
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,000
whole world

1359
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,640
at some point just to have people look

1360
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:55,920
up in the skies

1361
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:57,920
all over the world and maybe capture

1362
00:48:03,270 --> 00:47:59,359
something in london

1363
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:03,280
in houston in in tokyo

1364
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:06,079
just just to have a more collective

1365
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:07,839
mentality for the public

1366
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:10,880
to be curious

1367
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:13,839
so it's still under the works i'm trying

1368
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:16,240
to help out how i can to get it public

1369
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,960
publicized but i'm looking forward to

1370
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:20,000
seeing what's going to happen

1371
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:22,559
of course i will be out july 17th

1372
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:24,400
looking up in the skies at night and

1373
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:27,200
hopefully recording some stuff

1374
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,760
but uh overall it's going to be really

1375
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:31,200
exciting and i'm looking forward to

1376
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:33,119
seeing people just getting involved

1377
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:35,040
and it's completely free i mean no one's

1378
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:36,720
no one's asking for money no one's

1379
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:37,440
asking them

1380
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:39,920
to no one's asking anyone to like like

1381
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:41,839
the facebook page or anything

1382
00:48:46,829 --> 00:48:44,640
it's just to open people's minds to look

1383
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:46,839
up in the skies instead of on their cell

1384
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:49,359
phones thank you i was just gonna say

1385
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:51,040
there's a reason it's called eyes on the

1386
00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:52,000
skies

1387
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,599
if people just looked up they'd be

1388
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:55,359
amazed at what they could see

1389
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:56,880
and that's why i think we're seeing a

1390
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:59,520
lot more ufo reports coming in during

1391
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:01,200
this pandemic because people have the

1392
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,640
time to like

1393
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:05,280
go outside they're like hungry to just

1394
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:07,599
go outside they've been trapped in their

1395
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:10,559
houses apartments dorms whatever for so

1396
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:11,280
long

1397
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:12,960
so i think that's why we're seeing such

1398
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:14,800
an influx in ufo

1399
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:17,680
reports and interest in ufos people are

1400
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:18,400
now home

1401
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,720
and going on the internet and like

1402
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:22,319
looking into stuff they never looked

1403
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,599
into before so

1404
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:25,520
i don't know if that's good or bad i

1405
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:27,119
feel like we're creating a lot more

1406
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:29,520
conspiracy theorists out there

1407
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:32,400
as well but um that's really cool i will

1408
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:33,760
definitely be joining you guys

1409
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:36,079
imagine if like everyone in the world

1410
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:37,680
just decided to look up

1411
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:40,160
at the same time and like record what

1412
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:40,880
they saw

1413
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:43,359
like what we could do with that data in

1414
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:44,319
that evidence

1415
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:47,680
it's just sad it's amazing exactly and

1416
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:48,319
if some

1417
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:49,920
you know there are some oriental

1418
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:51,520
countries that can get hundreds of

1419
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:53,200
thousands of people to meditate for 30

1420
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:53,599
minutes

1421
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:55,520
all together in the same location i

1422
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:56,800
don't see why

1423
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:59,119
we can't just look up with their eyes

1424
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:00,640
into the sky and have

1425
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:04,720
that same kind of effect of just that

1426
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:06,800
i don't want to say the word freedom but

1427
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:08,640
in a sense freedom to do

1428
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:11,760
what you want but to do it with others

1429
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,920
that's beautiful i love that well i'm

1430
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:15,520
really looking forward to that i will

1431
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:17,200
definitely take part with you guys

1432
00:50:20,710 --> 00:50:19,280
um awesome well i hope you'll take part

1433
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:20,720
in these listener questions

1434
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,559
with me christina i will fire them off

1435
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:24,880
for you um we had some excited people

1436
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:27,040
um my first one comes from one of my

1437
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,079
patrons so

1438
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:30,480
my patreon subscribers get priority to

1439
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:32,400
ask questions of our guests so if you

1440
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:33,040
want

1441
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:35,119
to be the first in line to ask our guest

1442
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:36,160
a question

1443
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:38,240
help somewhere in the skies and do the

1444
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,520
same for eyes

1445
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:41,520
on the skies and christina over your

1446
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:42,559
youtube um

1447
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:44,800
so our first question from patreon greg

1448
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:45,760
greg asks

1449
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:47,440
with the us government about to release

1450
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:49,839
a report from the uh the pentagon

1451
00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:52,319
task force it's important to normalize

1452
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:53,280
the subject

1453
00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:55,119
what are some good ways christina that

1454
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:57,680
you think we can shed the stigma and

1455
00:51:02,230 --> 00:50:58,640
ridicule

1456
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:02,240
with this whole ufo topic watching these

1457
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:04,000
kinds of live casts

1458
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,960
watching them sharing them liking them

1459
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:08,000
talking to others

1460
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:11,359
about them because not everyone

1461
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:13,839
um has the same interests right but it's

1462
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:15,520
having these discussions

1463
00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:17,920
planting little seeds in people's minds

1464
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,359
without bias without

1465
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:21,520
forcing your opinion but just talking to

1466
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:22,800
them about it

1467
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:26,960
is a really big deal and i i

1468
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,440
it's possible everyone can jump into

1469
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:31,040
this topic and now with the mainstream

1470
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:33,280
media touching on it already

1471
00:51:36,069 --> 00:51:34,800
that's a really big deal that's a really

1472
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:36,079
big deal it's a really big step because

1473
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:37,440
it's being talked about

1474
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:39,920
and like louise jimenez says when you're

1475
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:41,359
uh when you have that brink at the

1476
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:43,119
break at the water cooler drinking water

1477
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:44,720
be like hey did you watch the news about

1478
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:45,359
aliens

1479
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,280
you're like no okay well you better go

1480
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:48,960
watch it it's like okay i'm gonna watch

1481
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:50,079
it and then watch

1482
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:53,599
all of these podcasts to get a more

1483
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:57,440
in-depth in-scope tunnel vision

1484
00:52:01,349 --> 00:52:00,319
answers to what they're looking for that

1485
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:01,359
maybe the

1486
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:05,359
mainstream media can't really answer

1487
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,119
that's so cool and again i think the

1488
00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:08,880
power lies with

1489
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:11,520
us you look at something like um george

1490
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:14,400
knapp and jeremy corbell releasing these

1491
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:17,520
ufo videos and the reason that they

1492
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:18,000
didn't come

1493
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:19,839
out from the mainstream media first is

1494
00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:21,440
because they wouldn't touch it

1495
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:24,079
it wasn't until after corbell released

1496
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:25,680
these things and nap released these

1497
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:26,079
things

1498
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:28,000
that they're like whoa there's a lot of

1499
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:29,200
people talking about this

1500
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:31,200
we should probably cover it so i think

1501
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,119
it's important that um

1502
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:35,839
the educating the public on this topic

1503
00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:37,760
is not coming from cnn

1504
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:40,319
is not coming from the history channel

1505
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:41,200
fox news

1506
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,440
it's coming from things like what you're

1507
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:45,280
doing what i'm doing what luis is doing

1508
00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:46,880
and all these passionate people who've

1509
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:49,839
been looking into this topic for so long

1510
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:52,480
and we have to remember that someone

1511
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:54,160
like luis elizondo who worked for the

1512
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:54,960
pentagon

1513
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:57,520
specifically told us on somewhere in the

1514
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:59,280
skies i don't know if he said this

1515
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:01,200
with you at the debrief but they're

1516
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,319
watching us

1517
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:04,319
they're on our twitter accounts looking

1518
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:05,680
at what we're doing

1519
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:08,160
and the cases we've looked into because

1520
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:09,359
they have not been doing

1521
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,880
ufo studies for 30 years like a lot of

1522
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:14,480
these ufo researchers

1523
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,000
a lot of them got put into these

1524
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:18,160
positions they're behind so

1525
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:19,440
they're behind and i need the

1526
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:21,040
information so they come to us and be

1527
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:22,800
like

1528
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:24,319
yeah what do you got for me christina i

1529
00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:26,720
know it's it's freaky in one way i get a

1530
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,559
little paranoid but then i'm like

1531
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:30,960
good i'm glad the work i've done is

1532
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:32,800
actually doing some good

1533
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:35,599
um maybe who knows who knows maybe

1534
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:36,960
they're just like yeah nah they're a

1535
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:37,760
little crazy

1536
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:39,920
well but it also shows that that they're

1537
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:41,680
not in control of the narrative but they

1538
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:42,000
don't

1539
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:44,079
really know what's going on so it goes

1540
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:46,400
back to the 180 day report

1541
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:48,319
how much do they really know who's

1542
00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:50,400
writing it where are they getting their

1543
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:52,319
information from

1544
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:54,720
yeah truly that's a good point truly

1545
00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:55,440
yeah

1546
00:54:01,750 --> 00:53:58,800
awesome let's

1547
00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:01,760
see what montana casey on twitter asks

1548
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:02,720
uh

1549
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:05,760
i have heard i've heard

1550
00:54:10,870 --> 00:54:08,079
you ask many folks what they think the

1551
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:10,880
source of uapr ryan so i would love to

1552
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:11,440
know

1553
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:14,640
what christina thinks the source of uap

1554
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:17,280
are do you have like one singular answer

1555
00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:19,359
for that christina or an answer at all

1556
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:21,680
what are you ap where do they come from

1557
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:24,240
what are they doing here look

1558
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:26,319
i'm i'm really reluctant to even

1559
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:28,000
speculate or give my opinion on what

1560
00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:28,800
they are because i

1561
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:31,280
really do not have a solid opinion i

1562
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:34,160
mean i'm open-minded to a small

1563
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:36,720
minority of compelling sightings being

1564
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:38,000
from another civilization

1565
00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:40,799
or from another dimension or even from

1566
00:54:44,309 --> 00:54:41,839
the future

1567
00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:44,319
or a hidden race we share with on this

1568
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:45,440
planet

1569
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:46,960
um maybe coming from deep under the

1570
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:48,640
oceans right usos

1571
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:52,079
but i'm i'm just open-minded uh to many

1572
00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:55,040
sightings being of conventional origin

1573
00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:57,680
like drones or other mundane things i

1574
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,240
mean

1575
00:55:02,470 --> 00:54:59,760
there are a lot of things out there that

1576
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:02,480
are man-made that get misidentified for

1577
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:03,599
the most part so

1578
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:05,760
i'm seeking answers and i'm looking for

1579
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:07,680
the truth so i haven't made up my mind

1580
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:08,160
with a

1581
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:11,040
solid belief or opinion on what they are

1582
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:12,160
but

1583
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:15,839
i do muse a lot about this it's like

1584
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:19,760
it's like we're looking for a mystery

1585
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:21,200
so it's like okay we're looking at a

1586
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:23,040
mystery that's like a mirror that has

1587
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:24,559
broken on the floor and has

1588
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:26,079
and it breaks into many different

1589
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:28,079
fragments and somehow we're trying to

1590
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:28,480
make

1591
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:30,960
sense of how we put it all together but

1592
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:31,839
when a mirror

1593
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:34,079
breaks on the ground you see different

1594
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:36,319
facets of the ceiling different facets

1595
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:36,880
of the

1596
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:41,680
looks sort of distorted

1597
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:42,720
and that kind of leads into

1598
00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:44,799
disinformation it's like

1599
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:47,119
you have so many pieces which ones are

1600
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:48,000
real which one

1601
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,599
are distorted or misinformation and so

1602
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:53,440
if i go the route of thinking that it's

1603
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:56,160
not aliens in these ufos and that it's

1604
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,240
our own technology

1605
00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:00,240
in some cases i don't feel like it's a

1606
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:01,760
far stretch

1607
00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:04,559
and let me tell you a story on that on

1608
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:05,119
why

1609
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:07,760
i think that way because it'll make a

1610
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:08,720
lot more sense

1611
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:12,880
so cool in 1903 the wright brothers

1612
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:15,440
invented the airplane we know this right

1613
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:17,040
they were the pioneers of creating the

1614
00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:17,920
very first

1615
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:21,280
successful airplane this was

1616
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:24,559
paradigm shifting technology

1617
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,200
but what happens in no time every

1618
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:29,200
country with a sufficient

1619
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:31,200
infrastructure is building and flying

1620
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,799
these airplanes

1621
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:34,319
and then it wasn't until the second

1622
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:37,520
world war was when the united states

1623
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:38,319
entered their

1624
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:41,280
very first air battle between japan and

1625
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:42,240
germany

1626
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:44,400
here's why i'm saying this the united

1627
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:46,160
states created

1628
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:47,760
the airplane right they invented the

1629
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:50,480
airplane but other countries had already

1630
00:56:54,549 --> 00:56:51,520
weaponized

1631
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:54,559
this invention before the country that

1632
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:56,720
invented it

1633
00:57:01,910 --> 00:57:00,319
okay so so it was a game-changing

1634
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:01,920
technology that became

1635
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:05,599
a deadly challenge to us and to why

1636
00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:08,720
when inventions are now found or things

1637
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:10,319
that are under the works right like

1638
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:11,119
maybe some

1639
00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:13,920
things that we see in the sky are kept

1640
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:16,400
under wraps to the best of its ability

1641
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:17,839
because look what happened with the

1642
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:19,839
wright brothers other countries

1643
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:21,839
got the information and weaponized it

1644
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:23,920
before the united states was

1645
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:26,400
the united states did even the united

1646
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:27,520
states created it

1647
00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:30,079
first is that fair well it depends on

1648
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:31,119
how fast

1649
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:34,559
you are in creating these things so

1650
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:38,000
if if the government did

1651
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:39,359
create these things that we're seeing in

1652
00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:41,040
the skies that are going these

1653
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:44,160
insane speeds doing these insane

1654
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:47,839
turns and they're blaming it on aliens

1655
00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:50,960
it turns people's eyes

1656
00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:52,799
somewhere else while the military is

1657
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:54,079
right here

1658
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,720
tweaking their technology not telling

1659
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:58,160
other countries because

1660
00:58:02,150 --> 00:58:00,880
the mentality of the military regardless

1661
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:02,160
of what country you're in

1662
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,240
is to always have the upper hand to not

1663
00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:06,480
let your enemies know what you're doing

1664
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:09,520
and to make sure that you are ahead of

1665
00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:10,160
them in

1666
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:13,280
every possible way it's whoever

1667
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:17,040
can sort of like you said weaponize or

1668
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:19,359
possess that technology first

1669
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:22,000
like game over to be completely honest

1670
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:22,559
and you know

1671
00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:25,359
the wright brothers didn't create the

1672
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:25,839
first

1673
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:29,200
plane to be used to drop bombs over

1674
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:30,079
countries

1675
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:32,480
and to uh you know do these sorts of

1676
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:33,760
horrible things

1677
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:36,400
um no it was to achieve flight to do

1678
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:38,319
what we saw these incredible

1679
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:41,760
birds do and and possibly ufos too

1680
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:44,000
so yeah that's a good point very good

1681
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:44,880
point

1682
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,799
and again it's just speculation you know

1683
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:48,400
i just think that i muse about outside

1684
00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:49,680
of the box

1685
00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:51,680
so i'm sorry that i didn't really answer

1686
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:53,599
what i think uaps are just because

1687
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:56,319
it's such a big question and there's so

1688
00:59:01,510 --> 00:58:58,319
many possibilities

1689
00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:01,520
yes and i loved the mirror sort of

1690
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:04,079
analogy because it does it reflects

1691
00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:04,960
everything

1692
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:07,040
a different way the minute you move that

1693
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:08,480
little piece of the mirror

1694
00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:11,359
so your your your perception and your

1695
00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:12,799
thoughts on it are going to change

1696
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:14,880
constantly so no i thought that was a

1697
00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:16,079
really good way of answering the

1698
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:16,559
question

1699
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:19,280
actually um for what that's worth um

1700
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:19,599
we'll

1701
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:22,559
sort of talking about um i guess uh

1702
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:23,920
military and

1703
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:27,520
sort of government involvement um

1704
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,680
john bot on twitter wants to know what

1705
00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:31,680
do you make of the whole bob lazar

1706
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:34,000
story this guy who claims to have

1707
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:36,880
reverse engineered flying saucers

1708
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:40,559
out at s4 um you know near area 51

1709
00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:43,440
do you believe any of the story about

1710
00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:44,319
bob lazar

1711
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:46,240
and all this all this stuff he's claimed

1712
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:48,720
to have been a part of

1713
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:52,160
i'm i'm open-minded look i i don't

1714
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:54,240
i don't want to judge him as true or

1715
00:59:58,549 --> 00:59:56,480
false here's the big thing

1716
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:58,559
that he did even if he was lying or

1717
01:00:02,309 --> 00:59:59,520
telling the truth

1718
01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:02,319
he brought it to the public made people

1719
01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:03,680
question

1720
01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:05,680
what's happening what's happening what

1721
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:07,200
the government is funding

1722
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:10,480
and to try to reverse engineer crafts

1723
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:11,280
that may be

1724
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:15,040
that that maybe that they find

1725
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:17,680
look regardless if it's real or not it's

1726
01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:20,000
opening people's minds including mind to

1727
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:21,040
the curiosity

1728
01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:24,400
is it happening we don't know we don't

1729
01:00:27,270 --> 01:00:25,280
know

1730
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:27,280
like whether you believe bob was or not

1731
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:29,599
like he kind of put area 51

1732
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:32,319
on the map and he did make us ask these

1733
01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:34,160
very existential questions

1734
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,640
what if we did have a flying saucer what

1735
01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:38,160
if something did crash

1736
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:40,160
in roswell yeah and it starts that

1737
01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:43,040
curiosity that's what scientists work on

1738
01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:44,000
to

1739
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:48,559
such as the internet such as computers

1740
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:50,559
cell phones it's that curiosity what can

1741
01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:53,440
i do to make life better what can i do

1742
01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:56,480
to just make

1743
01:00:59,670 --> 01:00:59,200
everything better than what it is right

1744
01:01:02,390 --> 01:00:59,680
now

1745
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,400
so it all starts with the discussion to

1746
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:04,000
figure things out you know to figure out

1747
01:01:08,309 --> 01:01:04,799
the mysteries

1748
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:08,319
to the best of our ability absolutely

1749
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:12,319
um he kate gamgee on twitter asks

1750
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:14,720
have you found it hard as a woman to be

1751
01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:16,799
heard or taken seriously

1752
01:01:21,190 --> 01:01:18,720
on these topics in these communities

1753
01:01:23,589 --> 01:01:21,200
that you're a part of

1754
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:23,599
i will say i am so lucky to start my

1755
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:24,720
journey

1756
01:01:29,510 --> 01:01:28,319
in 2021 2020 uh just because it's been a

1757
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:29,520
lot easier than maybe

1758
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:31,920
for other women that had to endure it in

1759
01:01:35,190 --> 01:01:34,079
the 80s in the 90s linda moulton howe

1760
01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:35,200
leslie keane

1761
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:36,880
these women that were not taken

1762
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:38,400
seriously so yes

1763
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:41,520
it is a bit uh difficult but

1764
01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:45,520
i am so lucky to be where i am right now

1765
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:47,200
there of course have been some cases

1766
01:01:51,430 --> 01:01:48,640
where i've been ignored

1767
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:51,440
who i won't name who i really wanted to

1768
01:01:55,270 --> 01:01:52,480
interview

1769
01:01:55,670 --> 01:01:55,280
but i guess they see my age my gender my

1770
01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:55,680
my

1771
01:02:00,230 --> 01:01:58,000
lack of experience and they just ignore

1772
01:02:02,069 --> 01:02:00,240
me so it's a bunch of things it's not

1773
01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:02,079
just being a woman

1774
01:02:05,349 --> 01:02:03,839
there are so many other factors behind

1775
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:05,359
it but like i said

1776
01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:09,119
uh i'm lucky to start it in this era

1777
01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:11,920
and be taken seriously by many not by

1778
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:13,599
all but by many

1779
01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:15,520
by many and you know you can only hope

1780
01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:16,640
that those who

1781
01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:18,799
feel that way will eventually come

1782
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:20,240
around like most people do

1783
01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:22,640
and again your work speaks for your for

1784
01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:24,160
itself it doesn't matter

1785
01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:27,680
what gender or identity or nationality

1786
01:02:30,150 --> 01:02:28,160
or

1787
01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:30,160
whatever like we're all in this together

1788
01:02:33,990 --> 01:02:31,599
to find answers

1789
01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:34,000
so i totally get that and you know i

1790
01:02:36,710 --> 01:02:36,000
also i'm so happy you brought up those

1791
01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:36,720
names

1792
01:02:39,829 --> 01:02:38,559
because these were the women that kind

1793
01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:39,839
of paved the way

1794
01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:42,559
and um went through hell just to get

1795
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:43,920
their information out there you know

1796
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:44,880
they could give the

1797
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:48,400
best lecture for two hours with the most

1798
01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:49,680
compelling evidence

1799
01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:52,240
of all time and what's that dude in the

1800
01:02:56,069 --> 01:02:53,520
front row gonna say

1801
01:02:57,990 --> 01:02:56,079
i don't like the color of her shoes or

1802
01:03:01,349 --> 01:02:58,000
she her hair looked a little

1803
01:03:02,950 --> 01:03:01,359
a little bad not about the amazing

1804
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:02,960
groundbreaking evidence they brought

1805
01:03:06,069 --> 01:03:04,240
forward but are they going to say that

1806
01:03:08,309 --> 01:03:06,079
about the guy wearing the uh

1807
01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:08,319
the tweed suit and his buttons are all

1808
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:09,680
done wrong and everything

1809
01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:11,520
no they're not it's just you're

1810
01:03:17,430 --> 01:03:14,240
scrutinized different in these fields as

1811
01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:17,440
you are in many different areas of the

1812
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:17,839
world

1813
01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:20,880
and um you know fields as well so um

1814
01:03:25,029 --> 01:03:23,599
i i see it changing i'm excited for the

1815
01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:25,039
future of um

1816
01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:28,880
more uh female identifying individuals

1817
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:31,039
getting involved in this topic

1818
01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:34,160
and um look if you and chrissy

1819
01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:37,599
and um and ufo jane and all these other

1820
01:03:40,150 --> 01:03:38,480
amazing

1821
01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:40,160
women out there are the future of it

1822
01:03:42,549 --> 01:03:42,160
like i have no doubt we're on the right

1823
01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:42,559
path

1824
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:44,559
so um that's a really good question i'm

1825
01:03:48,150 --> 01:03:45,839
glad she asked that

1826
01:03:49,670 --> 01:03:48,160
it is an issue in this field i wouldn't

1827
01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:49,680
say necessarily it's an issue but it's

1828
01:03:52,789 --> 01:03:50,319
just you know

1829
01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:52,799
one side dominates it more than the

1830
01:03:55,750 --> 01:03:54,000
other but here's the thing

1831
01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:55,760
like you said more women are jumping

1832
01:03:59,349 --> 01:03:57,440
into the topic and the biggest thing to

1833
01:04:00,950 --> 01:03:59,359
why i'm here to why a lot of us join

1834
01:04:02,789 --> 01:04:00,960
this field is not only to find answers

1835
01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:02,799
but to inspire others

1836
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:04,799
why there's the reason why there's so

1837
01:04:09,109 --> 01:04:06,480
many people in this

1838
01:04:09,829 --> 01:04:09,119
is so that those that are watching can

1839
01:04:12,069 --> 01:04:09,839
find

1840
01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:12,079
one person that they connect to that's

1841
01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:13,440
why we're all different

1842
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:15,359
and that's why we all tell our stories

1843
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:17,119
slightly differently so regardless if

1844
01:04:21,029 --> 01:04:18,240
you're a man or a woman

1845
01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:21,039
your age your ethnicity there's going to

1846
01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:23,039
be someone else that's going to connect

1847
01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:23,599
with you

1848
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:25,520
and they're going to feel involved

1849
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:27,039
through you

1850
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:30,640
i love it um all right audrey audrey on

1851
01:04:34,309 --> 01:04:31,280
facebook

1852
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:34,319
asks my nieces are starting to research

1853
01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:36,640
the uap phenomenon yay audrey that's

1854
01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:37,280
awesome

1855
01:04:40,870 --> 01:04:39,359
um they're researching it more and more

1856
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:40,880
they've even mentioned starting a

1857
01:04:44,470 --> 01:04:41,920
podcast

1858
01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:44,480
but they're unsure about how to go about

1859
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:45,119
it so

1860
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:46,720
she wants to know christina do you have

1861
01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:48,960
any advice for the her young nieces out

1862
01:04:54,470 --> 01:04:50,720
there who want to get involved in

1863
01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:54,480
both uap research and the podcasting one

1864
01:04:57,589 --> 01:04:56,400
jump in head first you're gonna mess up

1865
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:57,599
a lot

1866
01:05:00,630 --> 01:05:00,000
you'll only learn as you go along but

1867
01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:00,640
just

1868
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:02,720
do it watch other people that influence

1869
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:04,960
you that inspire you

1870
01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:06,720
and just to get kind of get an idea of

1871
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:09,440
how they reconcile with the information

1872
01:05:14,069 --> 01:05:11,280
that they're given their setup

1873
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:14,079
but don't wait another day jump in it

1874
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:15,680
today if you're watching this

1875
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:18,720
whenever you watch it just start with

1876
01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:20,240
basic equipment you can even do it on

1877
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:21,359
your cell phone

1878
01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:24,720
and go for it you got this um

1879
01:05:29,109 --> 01:05:26,720
inspirational words from someone on the

1880
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:29,119
right track here is our last listener

1881
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:30,400
question christina

1882
01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:33,920
um gerald on twitter asks um

1883
01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:35,599
this actually reminds me of my most

1884
01:05:39,510 --> 01:05:36,960
recent ask me anything

1885
01:05:41,109 --> 01:05:39,520
um i had my parents and sister come on

1886
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:41,119
the show to talk about what they think

1887
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:41,760
about

1888
01:05:45,270 --> 01:05:43,359
when i first got involved in this and

1889
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:45,280
what they think now with everything

1890
01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:47,920
going on with ufos so um

1891
01:05:52,870 --> 01:05:50,720
gerald asks when is christina going to

1892
01:05:55,270 --> 01:05:52,880
tell her parents what she does

1893
01:05:55,990 --> 01:05:55,280
i'm sure they'd actually be very proud

1894
01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:56,000
of her

1895
01:05:59,670 --> 01:05:57,599
um we touched on that a little bit

1896
01:06:01,990 --> 01:05:59,680
earlier but yeah you ever gonna

1897
01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:02,000
you ever gonna tell them that you're um

1898
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:03,200
you're one of us now

1899
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:06,240
you're one of us uh probably when i

1900
01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:07,520
graduate college

1901
01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:09,119
when they're like okay you have no more

1902
01:06:13,109 --> 01:06:11,200
distractions you can tell me anything

1903
01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:13,119
but here's the thing when parents say oh

1904
01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:14,480
you can trust me you can tell me

1905
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:16,079
anything

1906
01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:18,720
you can't believe it's not always true

1907
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:20,160
yeah it's not always true but yeah but

1908
01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:22,079
when i graduate as one i'll as one i'll

1909
01:06:26,470 --> 01:06:23,359
probably bring it up to them

1910
01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:26,480
be like hey guys guess what

1911
01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:29,599
i i have a side diploma in ufology

1912
01:06:34,710 --> 01:06:32,640
surprise surprise minus the degree part

1913
01:06:37,589 --> 01:06:34,720
just the information part and all the

1914
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:37,599
hours put into it

1915
01:06:41,750 --> 01:06:39,520
that's what it's all about though it's

1916
01:06:44,549 --> 01:06:41,760
not that piece of paper christina um

1917
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:44,559
well closing questions for you what do

1918
01:06:48,549 --> 01:06:46,000
you hope to get out of

1919
01:06:50,069 --> 01:06:48,559
all this i mean you know we got your

1920
01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:50,079
reasons as to why you

1921
01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:53,359
kind of got interested got involved but

1922
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:55,839
for you as an individual what do you

1923
01:06:58,710 --> 01:06:56,960
want out of this

1924
01:07:01,109 --> 01:06:58,720
i've asked this of many people and

1925
01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:01,119
everyone is amazing answers so um

1926
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:03,200
putting the pressure on you right now

1927
01:07:06,950 --> 01:07:04,880
what does christina want out of

1928
01:07:09,990 --> 01:07:06,960
all of these journeys she's on right now

1929
01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:12,870
i want i want the future to be us

1930
01:07:18,789 --> 01:07:14,480
knowing what's out there

1931
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:18,799
i want the world i want a world where

1932
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:22,240
we evolve as a species in

1933
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:25,440
into space like i i want kids of my

1934
01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:26,319
generation

1935
01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:29,760
kids to come to not

1936
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:33,440
be in this battle of disclosure in this

1937
01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:35,920
marathon instead of a sprint i want it

1938
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:36,559
to be an

1939
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:40,000
open topic for everyone and just to know

1940
01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:42,240
that there's so much more to life than

1941
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:43,680
what we see on earth there's so much

1942
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:45,440
more to life than the internet than our

1943
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:47,280
cell phones than tick tock

1944
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:48,559
just by looking up into the stars and

1945
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:50,880
letting your curiosity run

1946
01:07:56,230 --> 01:07:54,640
you can create anything that you want

1947
01:07:58,950 --> 01:07:56,240
people are people are stuck with

1948
01:08:01,990 --> 01:07:58,960
distractions again like the kardashians

1949
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:02,000
cell phones wi-fi tick-tock

1950
01:08:07,670 --> 01:08:04,079
all of these things and and it really

1951
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:07,680
just dumbs down the imagination that we

1952
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:10,799
all inherently have either through art

1953
01:08:14,069 --> 01:08:13,440
or through trying to invent something or

1954
01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:14,079
by just

1955
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:17,359
asking really curious questions to

1956
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:18,640
others

1957
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:22,080
that's what i'm what i'm hoping

1958
01:08:26,070 --> 01:08:24,239
what i'm hoping to get in the future by

1959
01:08:29,749 --> 01:08:26,080
doing what i'm doing now

1960
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:29,759
is to inspire people and to know that

1961
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:32,400
i want we should live in a world where

1962
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:35,440
we evolve as a species

1963
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:38,560
i love that again i always tell people

1964
01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:40,400
we're into these topics because of the

1965
01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:42,000
ambition we see

1966
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:44,159
displayed in these phenomena of like

1967
01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:45,440
what's possible

1968
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:47,679
that we just don't know how to get there

1969
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yet it's gonna happen

1970
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we're not an earthbound species we're

1971
01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:52,719
curious we've already traveled to the

1972
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:53,679
moon we have

1973
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:56,480
uh probes on mars we have we have all of

1974
01:09:01,110 --> 01:08:57,520
these things

1975
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already orbiting in our solar system

1976
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because of our curiosity next is just to

1977
01:09:07,749 --> 01:09:04,960
send ourselves

1978
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,759
out there farther than going to just the

1979
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moon

1980
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yeah i love that i love that what comes

1981
01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:15,199
next so that's my last question for you

1982
01:09:17,829 --> 01:09:16,000
christina

1983
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what comes next for you over at the

1984
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:19,759
channel over at the debrief

1985
01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:22,080
any big projects you can tell us about

1986
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:24,159
before you go here

1987
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:26,560
well today i don't know when this will

1988
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be aired

1989
01:09:31,829 --> 01:09:29,839
but uh today i'm having a show called

1990
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when worlds collide

1991
01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:33,759
uh when the world of law enforcement

1992
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:35,759
gets confronted by the world of the

1993
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:38,560
paranormal and the world of ufos

1994
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:41,199
also um on fridays i have shifting the

1995
01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:43,279
paradigm where i interview ufo

1996
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:45,920
researchers and enthusiasts on the uap

1997
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:48,719
topic and i'm trying to have more

1998
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:50,880
episodes of mysteries with the history

1999
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:53,920
talking about all topics that fall under

2000
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:55,679
the umbrella of the paranormal

2001
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:58,159
awesome christina that's this was a

2002
01:10:01,750 --> 01:09:59,520
marathon we covered

2003
01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:01,760
so much in the span of like an hour i

2004
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:03,840
don't know about you but i'm exhausted

2005
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:05,760
so i know you have a show to go prepare

2006
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:07,840
for so i'm gonna let you go

2007
01:10:12,070 --> 01:10:10,400
but um where can we find everything

2008
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you're up to

2009
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so i put all of my updates on twitter at

2010
01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:16,640
eyes on the skies and then i

2011
01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:18,000
like i said have a youtube channel

2012
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called shifting the parrot

2013
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:22,880
paradigm shifts ufo channel where i have

2014
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,600
the uh

2015
01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:25,440
show called shifting the paradigm

2016
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:28,080
getting them confused

2017
01:10:31,910 --> 01:10:30,560
but again all my updates are on twitter

2018
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:31,920
well this has been

2019
01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:34,560
super refreshing i'm so happy we finally

2020
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:35,760
made this happen i know we've been

2021
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:37,679
talking about it for a while so

2022
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you know more than anything welcome

2023
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welcome to the crazy you

2024
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world of ufology um uh i know

2025
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that you're gonna make some amazing

2026
01:10:49,270 --> 01:10:48,640
discoveries along the way and i can't

2027
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see what

2028
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next so thank you thank you for joining

2029
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me today on somewhere in the skies

2030
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